can considerably be conscious if it is satisfying all the necessary properties. But a von Neumann computer can never be conscious. Because it's too linear, it doesn't have this necessary phi. And, uh, on the other hand, if you ask him, he does not deny the Church Turing thesis.
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- 01 · _intake0.810
> computers can never be conscious because consciousness is a property that requires quantum states which are not reproducible. You see, so if you start with conscience and free will, you can
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- 02 · yt0.793
So, I would think the common perception is that the computational functionalism of the of the brain with a 100 trillion, whatever it is, number of synap- synapses, at some point brings about this this critical mass that moves the computational functionalism into consciousness. But is an ant conscious? Is a bumblebee conscious? Uh I mean, these are all questions then in the world of consciousness. Basically, you have every opinion that you can list. A bumblebee you know, protozoa are conscious. And obviously and obviously panpsychism is everything everything has a an element of consciousness. S…
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- 03 · yt0.788
And now I have a full blown theory of consciousness in free will that. Explain the conscious and free will cannot be. Produced either by a quantum classical system like our body and, and even less by a classical, a classical computer like the ones that the host artificial intelligence. And so is fundamental that we understand that we are much more than computers in a day when we are told that we are machines, just like computers. In fact, not so good because computers will, you know, will overcome our intelligence pretty soon if they haven't done it already. So, I, you know, now I'm really on …
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- 04 · yt0.786
If you're going to theory of consciousness which just is comp- computation, it's a bit hard to see how it's going to explain how you can prove um Fermat's Last Theorem if it requires all these levels of depth of of logic. It's It's so I'm I'm trying to kind of parse the steps in the in the argument. You know, given Gödel's theorem to be absolute that establishes mathematics cannot be a a a complete system in itself, and that mathematicians have to understand that with through their consciousness. Not sure what the step then is to go to where a brain operating under a computational functionalis…
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- 05 · yt0.785
You see, you could you could make it random, but that's not the point of free will. You could say that. You see, people often say that free will could be there if it's not deterministic. But it doesn't do you any good if it's just random. Yeah. So, the view I have is is more or less this. It's not even my It's a fairly recent view, I think. But the view is more this. There is something retrocausal about it. What free will really means and what I'm arguing for here is not that you can do anything you like and you can act randomly if you like. You're doing what you think is the right thing to do…
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- 06 · blog0.784
If we say “No”, on the other hand, then the mouse’s perception of the cat will be sufficient for the mouse to count as conscious of the cat; but we may have to say that although it is conscious of the cat, the mental state in virtue of which it is so conscious is not itself a conscious one! It may be best to by-pass any danger of confusion here by avoiding the language of transitive-creature-consciousness altogether. Nothing of importance would be lost to us by doing this. Turning now to the notion of mental-state consciousness , the major distinction here is between phenomenal consciousness ,…
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- 07 · yt0.783
And I want to ask you, at what level could a computer even in principle experience both happiness the happiest thought of its existence, A, and B, the bodily sensation of free fall. In other words, the emperor and the emperor's new mind, how could it even come close to this revelation which then led to GR and and the equivalence principle and everything else? In other words, are you sanguine about artificial intelligences becoming conscious? Or how could they if if so? Well, they wouldn't. I mean, my view is that if you're just looking at computation, that doesn't involve consciousness. And th…
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- 08 · pubmed0.783
As artificial intelligence (AI) continues to advance, it is natural to ask whether AI systems can be not only intelligent, but also conscious. I consider why people might think AI could develop consciousness, identifying some biases that lead us astray. I ask what it would take for conscious AI to be a realistic prospect, challenging the assumption that computation provides a sufficient basis for consciousness. I'll instead make the case that consciousness depends on our nature as living organisms - a form of biological naturalism. I lay out a range of scenarios for conscious AI, concluding th…
pubmed/PMID-40257177-conscious-artificial-intelligence-and-biological-naturalism/info.md
- 09 · yt0.781
You have to be careful about what you mean by a quantum computer because I don't think quantum computer in the sense that people use that term does actively involve using the collapse of the wave function as part of the mechanism in quotes because it's not really a mechanism. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Got it. So the the kind of quantum computers that for example Google is working on now because presumably it doesn't involve the collapse of the wave function. You think it wouldn't be conscious as such? Is that right? Okay, great. I asked Stuart the same question about whether contemporary AI co…
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- 10 · yt0.780
So we had to get rid of that for for a second. So let's think that one which is defined as the totality of what exists has three properties is dynamic holistic and wants to know itself. dynamic and holistic is what quantum physics is already saying the re you know all that exist is never the same instant after instant keeps on changing changes all the time and everybody agrees with that and is holistic everything is interconnected is not made of separable parts this is what entanglement has shown the world is like this I have added and wants to know itself why am I doing that because the evide…
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